Vol 2, No 1          


Dannion Brinkley


Saved by
the Light
Interview with
Dannion Brinkley
by Celeste Adams

 
 
On September 17, 1975, Dannion Brinkley's life changed dramatically after he was struck in the head by a bolt of lightning while talking on the telephone. He was declared clinically dead for 28 minutes and had a profound near-death experience. Then, in 1989, Brinkley had a second near-death experience when his damaged heart gave out.

''We all think we're such poor, pitiful, stupid little humans trying to have a mystical experience — when really we're great, awesome, powerful spiritual beings trying to have a human experience.''


CA: During the 28 minutes when you were declared clinically dead, you say that you moved through a dark tunnel towards a Spirit Being. What was that experience like?

DB: When you go down that tunnel to a bright and beautiful light, you're met by a Spirit Being that some call Mohammed, Buddha, Allah, Yahweh, or Jesus. That Being of Light is you. You suddenly realize that you've never left heaven, but had left parts of yourself there. After the tunnel, you lift out of your body and realize that you are an energy being.

CA: In At Peace in the Light, you write that it is the life review that has the greatest effect on people who have had near-death experiences. How did the panoramic life-review change your life?

DB: Of all that I teach, the panoramic life-review is the single most important thing that anyone can learn. Every religion has one of these concepts. You come to a place where you see your entire life pass before you in a 360-degree panorama. You miss nothing. You watch your birth. Then you watch your life from a second-person point of view. You literally become every person that you've ever encountered, and you feel the direct results of your interaction between yourself and that person.

CA: Was there any guilt or judgment involved in your first life-review?

DB: There's no guilt. You have a chance to forgive yourself. So you made mistakes! So you were wrong! You review your life as if you were the person that you were affecting with your behavior.

I grew up being a jackass, a tough boy, a bad boy, and I was meaner than hell. I had to feel the pain that I inflicted on others and the damage that I'd done, both physically, mentally, and emotionally.

But guilt has nothing to do with it. ''Do unto others as you would have others do unto you'' because you really are them.

You have a chance to forgive yourself, because it's the only way to move forward. Sometimes I revert to my old ways, but I don't obsess about that. I know that the world is created for us so that we can take advantage of the opportunity to grow spiritually and to unfold our Divine Presence wherever we are.

We're all so full of guilt. We all think we're such poor, pitiful, stupid little humans trying to have a mystical experience — when really we're great, awesome, powerful spiritual beings trying to have a human experience. We're not born in sin, or guilty of original sin. I get so tired of listening to that, I don't know what to do. In Dannion's Southern Colloquial Description of the system of judgment that takes place, the important question is: ''If God couldn't come today and God sent you, in the life you just reviewed, what difference did God make?''

CA: In Saved by the Light, you describe thirteen boxes of knowledge that were presented to you by Beings of Light during your first near-death experience. You say you were told by the Beings of Light that ''the flow of human events can be changed, but first people have to know what they are.'' You later wrote down 117 events that were foretold to you. What do you think of the truth of your predictions?

DB: A group of people in the CIA and some group in, I think, the Naval Intelligence Command fed the predictions into a computer and cross- referenced them, and they gave me 86.7 percent accuracy. At the time, I didn't know what I was seeing. It took four years before the first prediction happened. But we are in for a Grrraannnddd time! (What do you think of this Southern accent? People always ask me, Dannion, why in the world do you keep it? I'm proud of it. The Southern accent has a tranquil way about it.)

CA: I guess it took those bolts of lightning to thrust you out of that Southern tranquility. You were struck again by lightning a second time, three years after the first hit.

DB: It knocked me out. I don't remember what happened in those 45 to 50 minutes when I was unconscious.

CA: A number of years after that, in 1989, you had a second near-death experience.

Yes, I had heart failure and had to have emergency open-heart surgery. I watched the same system put itself into play. This time I went to higher levels within the Fourth Dimension. I knew there were at least three or four more dimensions, because I could sense them. I know that the Seventh Dimension opened itself to unlimited potential, expansion and consciousness.

CA: What happened in your third near-death experience that took place in 1997?

DB: While I was in a pressurized cabin in an airplane at 35,000 feet, I had three hematomas explode. Because of that I had to have brain surgery, which limited my ability to travel to higher dimensions. This kept me very consciously aware of the dimensions where people go who are either insecure or undefined spiritually.

I experienced a third panoramic life-review, which was pretty cool. It was very short compared to the other two, because I had grown and had founded Compassion in Action and Jackasses Anonymous. Now I love panoramic life-reviews because I have learnt how to love and how to express that love. That's what my hospice work is about.

When I sit down at the bedside of a person who is dying, I take it as a serious responsibility. They look into my eyes, and I know I will get to see that when my life passes before me. And that thrills me: You are the last person that person is ever going to see before they move down that tunnel and see their heavenly power.

CA: Why do we come here, what is the purpose of life here?

DB: We choose to come and are chosen to come. You design this life so that you can grow. Look at me, I must really want to grow, because I kill myself about every seven or eight years. I don't mean to, but talk about an interesting perspective! I strike myself with lightning. You ought to try about 180,000 volts. It gives you an attitude adjustment.

We come for breath.

CA: Why is breath so important?

DB: We breathe in for ourselves, and we breathe out for spiritual unfoldment. People have to understand the value of their breath and how significant it is. We need to help children who are coming into this world and taking their first breath. We need to help people who are leaving this world and taking their last breath. When you help them, you will find harmony and balance in your own life.

CA: What happens to our ego when we die?

DB: When you live in this world, you have an ego-based psychological nature, which is a mental-physical nature that is interested in self-gratification. You've constructed an identity, in the context of the world that you've chosen to come into, to create a way for you to grow both dimensionally and spiritually.

But that's not you. The Buddhists and Hindus say that the self passes away when we die. The Western consciousness is about ''I, I, I,'' and ''me, me, me.'' We think the self is our identity, but the self passes away. When I entered the Crystal City,[1] I found that I knew so little about my true self.

CA: Do we lose our identity when we die?

DB: When we pass from this life, we don't just become a big glob of spirit. That's nonsense. You never lose your identity. You have had your identity before there was time and before there was space. In the beginning there was the void, and you existed then. Just because someone said, ''Let there be light,'' and turned on the light, doesn't mean we didn't exist before that. I'm like Barry Manilow. I've been around forever. I might not have sung, but I hummed the very first song.

CA: What led you to become involved in hospice care?

DB: I can talk to audiences that range from three hundred to two thousand people, but that's nowhere near as important as sitting at a hospital or a VA and helping a family make the right decisions. You must first face your own mortality before you can help others face theirs.

Sometimes you're not ready, and that's why I created the Twilight Brigade, to train people who want to become part of Compassion in Action. I can take a person and move them through this program, and they don't have to die to know what I know. I'm developing a program for the Veterans Administration, the National Institute of Health, and the White House Commission on end-of-life care, dealing with alternative therapies. A person who goes through this program will know how to talk to a 75- or 80-year-old World War II veteran who fought his way from Sicily to the Battle of the Bulge. You can help him let go when it's his time, so that he can go home.

The first hospice patient I ever had was Dannion Brinkley. They sent me home to die, but I chose to get up and build these centers. I have been doing it for 25 years. I have been a hospice volunteer for twenty-four years. That's more than 8,500 hours at the bedside. Compassion in Action had 27,232 hours at the bedside in the year 2000, with more than 14,000 undocumented hours. We have more than 98,760 hours in the last three years.

My people are making a difference. That's what matters. One person at a time, and one family at a time — that's how I believe it should be done. Compassion in Action is in 22 VA hospitals.

I just finished testifying before the White House Commission on complimentary and alternative therapy. I believe in conventional medicine because it saved my life and I also believe in complementary therapies because that's what keeps me alive. People have to learn to blend these two worlds.

''I'm afraid. And when you lose the fear, you gain the hunger to know. Nothing stands between you and your spiritual self.''


CA: Why are people so afraid of death?

DB: People are taught to be terrified of death because of the things that religion, institutions, and the government have instilled in them. We need to put the information out there that there is life after death. We can't turn ourselves over to HMO's and managed care — none of them understand death. Death has only been taught in medical schools for four or five years. They don't deal with death because to them death is defeat.

We are great, powerful, and mighty spiritual beings who have chosen to come here and have been chosen to come here. We are divine reflections of the infinite nature of the love of God. God is the energy that implements unfoldment, knowledge, and awareness.

CA: Are you able to go back at will to the dimensions which you visited during the 28 minutes when you were dead?

DB: I understand multi-dimensional realities because I have seen them. I can move through dimensions. I can communicate with the dead. I can travel across galaxies or even universes. I can go anywhere I want to go, it's just how I program my system. I can hear a harmonic and move it through my body. Then I become the harmonic and travel through any dimension I want to go to. I can walk past people and hear their music and the song. It's a resonant harmonic, a combination of resonances that makes a tone.

I think I've come to the knowledge of these things and these skills because I'm not afraid of dying and I've been struck by lighting. I can go into a trance state and write two completely different paragraphs with my left and right hand at the same time. You can do this when you begin to learn the dimensional nature of yourself and take command of the ''sensuality'' of yourself. I've spent my life studying this. I'm not afraid. And when you lose the fear, you gain the hunger to know. Nothing stands between you and your spiritual self.

I stopped dealing with these things in my programs because I'm in the business of creating hospice organizations and I need the support of the federal government to do this. But in another two years, when this is all accomplished — look out!

CA: In At Peace in the Light, you describe your efforts to set up a clinic with one room for therapy, another for massage, and another for a sensory deprivation system. There is also a room with biofeedback equipment, and a bed with seven components. What is the purpose of all this?

DB: I constructed a system by which you can cross from this world to the next world and journey back and not have to die. Even though the Spirit Beings told me how to create it, I spent 11 years working with their instructions, trying to figure it out. I had a building built on my land which has nothing in it but the clinic. I knew the world that I had seen on the other side, in the other dimensions, was as real or more real as anything that I've encountered in this life. Now I can prove that those worlds exist because I've built this center.

CA: Do you believe we are really shifting into a Fourth Dimension?

DB: Absolutely. I don't believe it, I know it. I feel blows of energy.

One of the greatest movements to set that flow in motion happened on April 2 with one of the largest solar flares ever recorded in history.

We are growing. We are removing the magnetic energy fields that keep us separated and make us think that we have a separation in consciousness from everything else. The magnetic field is being reduced. The flux is in place, we're all becoming more aware that there is a place of non-separation. We're moving into another dimension of growth.

It's the end of the 26,000-year cycle of the Mayan calendar (although we use the Gregorian calendar, which is rubbish). I believe that we are getting a whole new sense of our origins and we are elevating ourselves spiritually — whether we know it or not. By 2004 we will have set a dimensional change, and the shift will be in place. It will manifest itself between 2010 and 2014. Who knows where we'll end up, with a 26,000-year cycle ending and a new system coming into play.

CA:What about the Spirit Beings that you say walk among us?

DB: Angels live in their dimensions around us. We all have a set of guides or familiars, people who are attached to us, though they have their own life, and are very close to us. They're in the Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Dimension because they're more refined, and they can move into our dimension undetected. They come into our dimension undetected to influence a single thought, a single dream, a single ideal, and a single focal point.

And there are masters in the Brotherhood who can take on any form. When you've been around like I've been around, and you know how old your Soul Presence is, then you can retrieve memories of the identities of these consciousnesses or Brotherhoods of Light — like the Masonics, the Templars, and the Kathars who built their identities back in the beginnings of time.

I have a new book called Reviving the Spirit, where I delve into some of these things. Right now, though, my focus is on showing people how to stabilize their own spiritual identity.

CA: What will happen to the concept of death after a Fourth Dimensional shift?

DB: What we call death will be unheard of. We'll laugh at what we were afraid of for the last 20,000 years. The fact that we're all connected and part of a central spiritual connectiveness will be common knowledge. Truth, faithfulness, earnestness, and love will be part of everyday life.

CA: Thank you for talking with us.

DB: You are welcome. Please tell everybody who reads this that I love them, and I love them in multi-dimensions. Tell them to keep unfolding, because — like it or not, benefit or resist — the Dimensional Shift is here.

Dannion Brinkley describes his extraordinary near-death experiences in Saved by the Light: The True Story of a Man Who Died Twice and the Profound Revelations He Received. In his book At Peace in the Light: The Further Adventures of a Reluctant Psychic Who Reveals the Secret of Your Spiritual Powers, he continues his exploration of our spiritual nature and the purpose of life. These near-death experiences transformed Dannion's life and inspired him to lecture at home and abroad on the subject of life after life.

Dannion is also chairman of the board for Compassion in Action, and has been a dedicated volunteer and advocate of hospice for over 28 years. Compassion in Action is committed to raising society's consciousness about the needs of the dying through community and professional education, advocacy, and service to the terminally ill and their loved ones. Their goal is that no one need die alone.

To find out more about the organization and its volunteer opportunities, contact Compassion in Action, The Twilight Brigade, P.O. Box 84013, Los Angeles, CA 90073, phone 310-473-1941, fax: 310-473-1951, email CIANatl@aol.com, or visit their website at Twilight Brigade. Dannion Brinkley's website is currently being constructed at dannion.com.


Footnotes:

  1. In Saved by the Light, Dannion describes the Crystal City: ''Like wingless birds, we swept into a city of cathedrals. These cathedrals were made entirely of a crystal substance that glowed with a light that shone powerfully from within. We stood before one. I felt small and insignificant next to this architectural masterpiece. Clearly this was built by angels to show the grandeur of God, I thought. There were spires as high and pointed as those of the great cathedrals of France, and walls as massive and powerful as those of the Mormon Tabernacle in Salt Lake City. The walls were made of large glass bricks that glowed with a life inside them. These structures were not about a specific religion of any kind. They were there as a monument to the glory of God.''


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